now in the sixth year of his presidency. >> you know, sean, i think obama useses rhetoric. all he needs to do is wear a t-shirt that says eat the rich. that's the message. it's always been that. when obama care and the roll out and everything hasn't worked. everything he implemented has not worked. what he does is he uses his speeches as a distraction. miss marshall, i hate to disagree. when we are put on together, i have to say when obama mentioned the word trust people don't trust him. people aren't going to trust him. especially what he's done with everything he's done. heaven said in a speech today that he wanted higher safety net. what does that mean? more obama phones? more flyers that encourage illegals to get on the food stamp train? >> last word. at some point, leslie, you have to admit it's not working and with the debt, we can't afford any more of his experiments of oh redistribution. >> well, i don't feel this is redistribution. >> no. >> rich people always have had and will have better health care with or out without the affordable care act. nicole, please call